From html-authors-guild-owner@lists.stanford.edu Tue Jul 11 17:39:59 1995 X-Sender: wbarr@popserver.stanford.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: ADMIN: Announcing hwg-business mailing list Sender: html-authors-guild-owner@lists.stanford.edu Hello All, The HWG-Business list is now open for business. In a nutshell, the purpose of the list is to discuss the business/financial/marketing aspects of running an HTML shop. Discussions about contracts, ethics, copyright, marketing, sales techniques, etc are most appropriate. Discussing what to charge, prices, etc. is not a topic for this list. To subscribe to the list, please send a message to: majordomo@daft.com With the body of the message mentioning, for example: subscribe hwg-business your@email.address -- William Barr, Stanford Computer Forum phone: 415-723-6632 ERL 448/450, Stanford, CA 94305-4055 fax: 415-725-7398 wbarr@leland.stanford.edu finger wbarr@cs.stanford.edu for PGP listowner: html-authors-guild@list.stanford.edu "My opinions are mine and only mine." From owner-hwg-business@daft.com Tue Jul 11 23:11:27 1995 Subject: Welcome to hwg-business Reply-To: Majordomo@daft.com -- Welcome to the hwg-business mailing list! 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