From owner-NEW-LIST@vm1.nodak.edu Tue Oct 3 18:19:42 1995 Subject: You are now subscribed to the NEW-LIST list To: Adam Rifkin Reply-To: NEW-LIST-Request@vm1.nodak.edu X-Lsv-Listid: NEW-LIST Tue, 3 Oct 1995 19:14:27 Your subscription to the NEW-LIST list (NEW-LIST - New List Announcements) has been accepted. Please save this message for future reference, especially if you are not familiar with LISTSERV. This might look like a waste of disk space now, but in 6 months you will be glad you saved this information when you realize that you cannot remember what are the lists you are subscribed to, or what is the command to leave the list to avoid filling up your mailbox while you are on vacations. In fact, you should create a new mail folder for subscription confirmation messages like this one, and for the "welcome messages" from the list owners that you will occasionally receive after subscribing to a new list. To send a message to all the people currently subscribed to the list, just send mail to NEW-LIST@VM1.NODAK.EDU. This is called "sending mail to the list", because you send mail to a single address and LISTSERV makes copies for all the people who have subscribed. This address (NEW-LIST@VM1.NODAK.EDU) is also called the "list address". You must never try to send any command to that address, as it would be distributed to all the people who have subscribed. All commands must be sent to the "LISTSERV address", LISTSERV@VM1.NODAK.EDU (or LISTSERV@NDSUVM1.BITNET). It is very important to understand the difference between the two, but fortunately it is not complicated. The LISTSERV address is like a FAX number, and the list address is like a normal phone line. If you make your FAX call someone's regular phone number by mistake, it will be an unpleasant experience for him but you will probably be excused the first time. If you do it regularly, however, he will probably get upset and send you a nasty complaint. It is the same with mailing lists, with the difference that you are calling hundreds or thousands of people at the same time, so a lot more people get annoyed if you use the wrong number. You may leave the list at any time by sending a "SIGNOFF NEW-LIST" command to LISTSERV@VM1.NODAK.EDU (or LISTSERV@NDSUVM1.BITNET). You can also tell LISTSERV how you want it to confirm the receipt of messages you send to the list. If you do not trust the system, send a "SET NEW-LIST REPRO" command and LISTSERV will send you a copy of your own messages, so that you can see that the message was distributed and did not get damaged on the way. After a while you may find that this is getting annoying, especially if your mail program does not tell you that the message is from you when it informs you that new mail has arrived from NEW-LIST. If you send a "SET NEW-LIST ACK NOREPRO" command, LISTSERV will mail you a short acknowledgement instead, which will look different in your mailbox directory. With most mail programs you will know immediately that this is an acknowledgement you can read later. Finally, you can turn off acknowledgements completely with "SET NEW-LIST NOACK NOREPRO". Following instructions from the list owner, your subscription options have been set to "REPRO SHORTHDR" rather than the usual LISTSERV defaults. For more information about subscription options, send a "QUERY NEW-LIST" command to LISTSERV@VM1.NODAK.EDU (or LISTSERV@NDSUVM1.BITNET). Contributions sent to this list are automatically archived. You can get a list of the available archive files by sending an "INDEX NEW-LIST" command to LISTSERV@VM1.NODAK.EDU (or LISTSERV@NDSUVM1.BITNET). You can then order these files with a "GET NEW-LIST LOGxxxx" command, or using LISTSERV's database search facilities. Send an "INFO DATABASE" command for more information on the latter. Please note that it is presently possible for other people to determine that you are signed up to the list through the use of the "REVIEW" command, which returns the e-mail address and name of all the subscribers. If you do not want your name to be visible, just issue a "SET NEW-LIST CONCEAL" command. More information on LISTSERV commands can be found in the LISTSERV reference card, which you can retrieve by sending an "INFO REFCARD" command to LISTSERV@VM1.NODAK.EDU (or LISTSERV@NDSUVM1.BITNET). From owner-NEW-LIST@vm1.nodak.edu Tue Oct 3 18:19:52 1995 Subject: NEW-LIST Information for New Subscribers To: Adam Rifkin Reply-To: NEW-LIST-Request@vm1.nodak.edu X-Lsv-Listid: NEW-LIST NEW-LIST Information 09/01/94 NEW-LIST is a moderated distribution list which may be used to announce the establishment of new e-mail mailing lists. Many of the people who maintain "lists of lists" subscribe to the NEW-LIST list as do direct users of the information. Types of Announcements We will accept items sent to new-list@vm1.nodak.edu or on BITNET to NEW-LIST@NDSUVM1 as long as they follow these guidelines. While we do not generally censor the items due to the topic matter of the list, we might not post something if we don't feel it is complete, if it might cause confusion, or if it doesn't fit the charter of the list. The NEW-LIST list exists primarily for initial announcements of new e-mail lists. The format for announcements is contained in the file NEW-LIST FORMAT available from LISTSERV@vm1.nodak.edu (see below). New and changed list announcements must come from a list owner, moderator, or list server administrator. PLEASE read the NEW-LIST FORMAT document before contributing! All new list announcements should have a subject of: Subject: NEW: listname - Description NEW-LIST may also be used to announce SIGNIFICANT changes to a list. A significant change is one which might prevent a user from subscribing (for example if the host system or subscription address change). Other valid changes might be if the purpose of the list changes significantly or if the list is terminated. The subject will be: Subject: CHANGE: listname - description Finally, NEW-LIST may be used as a list of LAST RESORT to search for lists or make sure a duplicate doesn't exist. YOU MUST search for the list yourself first! We just don't have time to do this for everyone and there will be too much noise if we send all of these to the list. You might try one of the following lists for general discussions of lists or network questions CRUISE-L on LISTSERV@UNLVM.UNL.EDU Cruising the Internet HELP-NET on LISTSERV@VM.TEMPLE.EDU BITNET/INTERNET Help Resource or other similar resources. All searches submitted to NEW-LIST must include a statement that searching has been done and describe any related lists which may NOT be what you are looking for. All replies should go to the original person doing the search. The subject for a list search or confirmation will be: Subject: SEARCH: description and they will be sent out as time permits. Submissions without information about searches the author has done may be returned. We also give priority to new list announcements and changes. Filtering Information At this time subscribers to NEW-LIST who are members on the primary host at LISTSERV@vm1.nodak.edu or on BITNET LISTSERV@NDSUVM1 have some additional ways they can tailor the information they receive. Each NEW-LIST distribution will have one or more "topics" specified at the start of the subject in the headers. The general format is: Subject: topic1,topic2: normal subject line For example, new lists will be announced with the "NEW" topic: Subject: NEW: listname - description The following topics are avilable: NEW For new list announcements CHANGE For list changes SEARCH For list searches ADMIN Administrative changes to the new-list itself ALL All of the above When you first subscribe to the list your topic is set to the special topic "ALL". If you wish to change topics you can send e-mail to listserv@vm1.nodak.edu (or LISTSERV@NDSUVM1 on BITNET) with the command in the BODY of the mail: set new-list topics=topic1,topic2,... For example, to change to NEW,CHANGE,ADMIN you sould send the command: set new-list topics=new,change,admin and you would NOT receive the SEARCH mail. If you want to reset your subscription to all the topics enter: set new-list topics=all Digest and Index Option If you'd prefer to receive ALL LISTSERV items in a digest form that option is also available. The digest is issued weekly (early Monday morning local time) AND whenever it exceeds 1000 lines (so there may be more than one digest a week). There is also an "index" option. This is like a digest without any text. Only the subjects are listed and you may then use LISTSERV commands to request the item(s) you want. To set your options send e-mail to listserv@vm1.nodak.edu or on BITNET to LISTSERV@NDSUVM1 with one of the following commands in the BODY of the e-mail: To receive weekly/1000 line digests: set new-list digest To receive an index only: set new-list index To receive normal mail: set new-list mail All three options are mutually exclusive. The topics setting ONLY works with the normal mail option. DIGEST and INDEX subscribers will receive all mailings. Reviewing your Options For any of the settings above and more you can send the "QUERY" command to determine your current options (or to determine if you are subscribed to the list at the specified server). Send e-mail to listserv@vm1.nodak.edu or on BITNET to LISTSERV@NDSUVM1 with the BODY containing the command: query new-list The list of your new-list subscription options will be returned. Obtaining Files All requests for files related to NEW-LIST should be sent via e-mail to LISTSERV@vm1.nodak.edu or on BITNET to LISTSERV@NDSUVM1 . The "GET" command is used to obtain the file. A few of the more common files are shown with the command to enter in the body of the mail: Command Description GET NEW-LIST FORMAT Format for contributions to new-list All contributors must read this GET NEW-LIST SEARCHES Hints on finding lists. All SEARCH contributors must read this or next. GET NEW-LIST WOUTERS Article on finding lists by Arno Wouters. GET NEW-LIST CREATE Some general suggestions if you want to set up your own list. These files are also available via anonymous FTP from vm1.nodak.edu. Once connected enter cd new-list and then ascii (Use text transfer only). Then use get fname.ftype to get the file. For example, use get new-list.format to get the NEW-LIST FORMAT file. Contact If you have any questions please contact the list owner/editor: Marty Hoag hoag@vm1.nodak.edu or nu021172@NDSUVM1.BITNET NDSU Information Technology Services PO Box 5164 / IACC Room 206 Fargo, ND USA 58105 Phone: 701 231-8639 Fax: 701 231-8541