From rifkin@cco.caltech.edu Sun Feb 13 04:06:55 1994 To: dobbin@tma.com, robert@vlsi.cs.caltech.edu, kendall.bullen@his.com, adam@vlsi.cs.caltech.edu Subject: Queensryche FAQ >Path: nntp-server.caltech.edu!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!pad-thai.aktis.com!pad-thai.aktis.com!not-for-mail >From: birchall@pilot.njin.net >Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive,alt.rock-n-roll.metal,alt.rock-n-roll,alt.answers,news.answers >Subject: MUSIC: Queensryche FAQ >Supersedes: >Followup-To: poster >Date: 18 Jan 1994 00:00:47 -0500 >Organization: Screaming in Digital, the Queensryche Net-Digest >Lines: 623 >Sender: faqserv@security.ov.com >Approved: news-answers-request@MIT.Edu >Expires: 3 Mar 1994 05:00:12 GMT >Message-ID: >Reply-To: queensryche-owner@pilot.njin.net >NNTP-Posting-Host: pad-thai.aktis.com >Summary: This posting contains Frequently Asked Questions - and answers - > about the band Queensryche, the Fan Club, and the Net-Digest. It > should be read by those seeking information on Queensryche. >Keywords: Queensryche Metal Progressive Band Seattle FAQ >X-Last-Updated: 1993/12/20 >Xref: nntp-server.caltech.edu alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive:2615 alt.rock-n-roll.metal:30478 alt.rock-n-roll:52851 news.answers:16985 Archive-name: music/queensryche-faq Alt-rock-n-roll-metal-progressive-name: queensryche-faq Last-modified: 1993/12/19 Version: 2.03 Queensryche Frequently Asked Questions Compiled by Shag (queensryche-owner@pilot.njin.net) Revision 2.03, December 19, 1993 ________ _Introduction_ ________ Welcome to the Queensryche FAQ. The purpose of this FAQ is to provide some basic (and sometimes not-so-basic) information about the band, so that new readers won't have to ask questions that have already been answered many times. The posting schedule is something like every 30 days - basically, once a month. FTP from glia.biostr.washington.edu, /pub/queensryche/FAQ. Much of the information comes from back issues of the Queensryche net-digest, "Screaming in Digital." Many thanks to the readers who contributed this information to the digest. Thanks also to Joyce Filmer, Vinnie Vera, John Sutton-Smith, Metal Sushi, and everyone else who's been of help at the Queensryche fanclub and EMI Records, to Cynbe Ru Taaren for the FTP space in Seattle, and to Dave Datta for the FTP mirroring. Questions or comments - email queensryche-owner@pilot.njin.net 'Ryche on! -Shag ________ _Index_ ________ General What Queensryche is What's new in this revision The new album and other news Where to get the latest revision Why there are margins Beginnings The members The name The symbol Releases Queensryche The Warning Live in Tokyo Rage for Order Operation: Mindcrime Empire Operation: Livecrime Operation: Empire Building Empires Fanclub Things The Fanclub The Pen Mate club The Archives The Net-Digest What the net-digest is How to subscribe or unsubscribe How to contribute information How to contact the digest owner Where to get back issues and other files Digest Tidbits Guidelines Abbreviations The old list T-shirts Lyrics Discographies Sheet Music Operation: Mindcrime Empire Bootlegs What they are How many there are Where to get them Spoken Words The Whisper Neue Regel Chemical Youth Screaming in Digital I Remember Now Anarchy-X Operation: Mindcrime Speak Spreading the Disease The Mission Suite Sister Mary The Needle Lies Electric Requiem Breaking the Silence Eyes of a Stranger Best I Can The Thin Line Della Brown Another Rainy Night Empire Silent Lucidity Anybody Listening? Personalities Michael Kamen The Operation: Mindcrime cast The Moronic Monks of Morin Heights Metal Sushi Related Bands Other progressive rock and metal bands ________ _General_ ________ Queensryche Queensryche is a band, from Seattle, Washington. The music created by Queensryche is commonly referred to as progressive metal. What's new in this revision of the FAQ Corrections to punctuation in the spoken word listings. Corrections to directory paths in FTP listings. Addition of Helloween to related band listings. The new album and other news To know when new albums are coming out, subscribe to the net-digest and read it on a regular basis. New releases are always a hot topic, usually for months ahead of time, and as soon as they're out, scores of reviews are contributed. The band have written quite a few songs (around twenty, I believe) over the past year or so, and are currently in the process of deciding which ones should go on the next album and putting the album together. It's now expected in early 1994. Scott Rockenfield played drums for a few songs on the David Lanz/Paul Speer album "Bridge of Dreams" which was released early this fall by Narada. "Building Empires" was released on laserdisc by Panasonic in early September. Panasonic's laserdisc club can be reached at 1-800-322-2285. Where to get the latest revision of the FAQ The latest revision of this FAQ is always available for FTP from glia.biostr.washington.edu (128.95.10.115) in /pub/queensryche/FAQ, and maybe ftp.uwp.edu (131.210.1.4) in /pub/music/lists/queensryche/FAQ. It can be retrieved using Gopher from the Mailing List Archives subdirectory on ftp.uwp.edu. It's also crossposted to the newsgroups Alt.Rock-N-Roll.Metal.Progressive, Alt.Rock-N-Roll.Metal, and Alt.Rock-N-Roll, periodically. If all else fails, e-mail queensryche-owner@pilot.njin.net and ask for a copy of the FAQ. Why there are margins on the FAQ and the net-digest The net-digest and FAQ are both hand-formatted with margins, since readers may wish to print copies and staple them or punch them for binders. ________ _Beginnings_ ________ The members Queensryche's five members all hail from the Seattle area and were involved in local bands, before coming together in a band called The Mob and recording a 4-song EP. The members are, in birth order: Geoff Tate - Vocals - Jan 14, 1959 Eddie Jackson - Bass - Jan 29, 1960 Michael Wilton - Guitar - Feb 23, 1962 Chris DeGarmo - Guitar - Jun 14, 1963 Scott Rockenfield - Drums - Jun 15, 1963 The name The Mob's EP got the attention of Kim and Diana Harris, record-shop owners on the east side of Seattle, who began managing the band and encouraged them to change their name. The title of the first song on the EP, Queen of the Reich, was contracted to Queensreich, then altered to Queensryche, so as not to imply nazi sentiments. The EP was also given the title Queensryche. The symbol Queensryche's symbol, known as a tri-ryche (sometimes spelled try-ryche), has no particular meaning, and is just something the band thought looked neat at the time. Through subsequent releases it has evolved, but the basic shape remains the same. ________ _Releases_ ________ Queensryche In 1983, the initial 3,500 copies of this four-song 206 Records EP sold out before the band had played a live show. EMI reissued the EP when they signed the band, and in 1986 a fifth song, Prophecy, was added. The Warning Queensryche's first full-length work, this album was recorded at Abbey Road studios. Released in 1984, it is generally viewed as a semi-conceptual comment on the current and future state of the world Live In Tokyo This concert video, now out of print in the USA, was recorded during a brief headlining tour in Japan just before the release of The Warning, and was released in 1985. Rage For Order This 1986 album dealing with three tiers of order - personal, political, and technological - was not a big commercial success, but is the favorite of many longtime fans. Operation: Mindcrime This 1988 concept album introduced a small cast of vivid characters, participants in a storyline involving drugs, politics, religion, drugs, sex, and assassination, all set to music. Video: Mindcrime This conceptual video was released in 1989, and features videos for a half-dozen songs from Operation: Mindcrime, including a "hidden" video with clues to the storyline. Empire A good bit more upbeat than Operation: Mindcrime, this 1990 album nonetheless dealt with several contemporary issues. The album went gold in one week, and spawned several singles. Operation: Livecrime This boxed set featuring a complete life performance of Operation: Mindcrime on both CD and video was released in late 1991, as Queensryche prepared to finish touring in support of Empire. Building Empires This 100-minute retrospective video, featuring rare and unreleased conceptual videos and live footage from the Building Empires tour and television appearances. ________ _Fanclub_ ________ The Queensryche Campaign (membership - US $15, SASE for info) Queensryche P.O. Box 70503 Bellevue WA 98007-0503 USA The $15 gets you an 8x10 autographed photo of the band, a certificate of membership, a bumper sticker, at least one window decal, a half-dozen stickers, and four newsletters each year. The Fanclub also has a variety of merchandise available. The Pen Mate Club (send an SASE for info) Tane Pruett P.O. Box 26862 San Diego CA 92196 "Operation: Archyves" ($5 for a copy, SASE for info) Joyce Filmer The Queensryche Archives P.O. Box 020265 Staten Island NY 10302-0003 USA The $5 gets you a copy of the archives, which are the most complete Queensryche discography known to exist, covering everything (except bootlegs) that has ever been released by, or written about, the band. ________ _The_Net-Digest_ ________ What the net-digest is The net-digest, "Screaming in Digital," is essentially a free weekly fan magazine in electronic text form. Common subjects include anything and everything implicitly or explicitly related to Queensryche. How to subscribe or unsubscribe To begin or stop receiving "Screaming in Digital," email your request to queensryche-request@pilot.njin.net. How to contribute information To contribute information to "Screaming in Digital," email your submission to queensryche@pilot.njin.net. How to contact the digest owner If you have problems with or questions about "Screaming in Digital," or wish to send something to only the editor, email queensryche-owner@pilot.njin.net. Where to get back-issues You can FTP back-issues from glia.biostr.washington.edu, in the directory /pub/queensryche/files/digest, and FTP or use Gopher to retrieve them from ftp.uwp.edu, in the directory /pub/music/lists/queensryche/digest. ________ _Digest_Tidbits_ ________ Digest guidelines If you're contributing to the digest, try to use correct spelling and grammar, and go easy on the flames. If any of these really aren't practical for you, contribute anyway, the editor can fix anything that's incorrect. Since this is handled by a human, it's entirely okay to have a lengthy signature file or send "test" messages, they'll just get edited out. One thing to keep in mind is that it's a weekly digest, and thus not a very fast way of communicating crucial information. The old list A year or so before "Screaming in Digital" came along, there was, for a short time, a Queensryche list called "Breaking the Silence." Very little information from it still survives, aside from a history of the band. Abbreviations Some of Queensryche's releases are called by shortened forms of their titles. The Warning may be referred to as Warning, Rage For Order as Rage, Operation: Mindcrime and Operation: Livecrime as Mindcrime and Livecrime, respectively. Initial abbreviations such as RFO and O:M are less widely accepted. T-shirts A run of Screaming in Digital t-shirts were designed and offered for purchase by subscribers in early 1993. All the shirts were pre-ordered, so no extras are available. However, if there is sufficient interest in the future, more might be made. Song lyrics You can FTP lyrics to all the songs from all Queensryche albums (and the ones they've contributed to movie soundtracks, or used as b-sides on singles) from glia.biostr.washington.edu /pub/queensryche/files/lyrics, or use FTP or Gopher to retrieve them from ftp.uwp.edu, in /pub/music/lists/queensryche/lyrics. Lyrics are also available from the Fanclub. Discographies Discographical information covering full-length releases, singles, magazine articles, and bootlegs is available on glia.biostr.washington.edu, in the directory /pub/queensryche/files/discography for FTP, and can be retrieved through FTP or Gopher from ftp.uwp.edu, /pub/music/lists/queensryche/discography. This information is extensive but still incomplete. ________ _Sheet_Music_ ________ Operation: Mindcrime A sheet music and guitar tablature book of selections from Operation: Mindcrime is commercially available. Transcriptions of several of the individual songs have also appeared in guitar magazines. Empire A sheet music and guitar tablature book of selections from Empire is commercially available, as is individual sheet music and tablature for Silent Lucidity. ________ _Bootlegs_ ________ What they are Bootlegs are unauthorized recordings of a band. Yes, they're illegal. Most of them have titles related to the band, a photo on the cover, whatever. They're usually live, of course, taped from concerts or live broadcasts. The sound quality varies greatly based on the recording technology used, the situation, and how many times the recording is copied before it reaches you. How many there are There are dozens of bootlegs of Queensryche, ranging back to the early days of the band. Some are in the vinyl LP format, some are in the CD format, some are videotapes. As mentioned above, the discographical information which is available for FTP includes a list of bootlegs. Note: this list is purely for reference purposes, and does not contain information on prices, availability, or quality. The digest owner has no bootlegs. Where to get them Since bootlegs are illegal, they can only rarely be found in record stores. Record shows and sales tend to have more of them, and specialty magazines and mail-order companies are the most likely to have them. Sometimes bootlegs are offered for sale by digest subscribers. Cost Bootlegs aren't cheap - they usually cost at least as much as import releases. If you're not a stickler for quality, though, there are people who'll trade you a tape copy of a bootleg, for a tape copy of another bootleg, or in some cases, another group altogether. ________ _Spoken_Words_ ________ The Whisper Quite a bit at the end, including a clip of a female shouting "Kill us all, kill us all!" taken from the movie "Helter Skelter." Neue Regel Quite a bit spoken behind the music, ending in repetition of, "It's all related." Chemical Youth Repeated, "I cannot help but get angry at times," at the beginning of the song, then in the middle of the song, "I used to wonder if there was something I could do with my life that would really make a difference. Heh... you can't change the world..." The voice continues behind the music for some time. Screaming in Digital At the beginning of the song, "It occurs to me that I might not grow old," from the left, then "If you want to say goodbye, just say I love you," from the right. I Remember Now ] Over the hospital public address system, "Doctor Davis, telephone please, Doctor Davis, telephone please. Doctor Blair, Doctor Blair, Doctor J. Hamilton." TV, "...the Soviets... In other news the bizarre murders of political and religious leaders that have shocked this city over the last month seemed to have ended as suddenly as they began. No terrorist groups ... responsibility for the slayings, but police have a suspect in custody under observation in a state hospital. His identity is being withheld pending further investigation. Sports and weather next..." Debbie, "It's ten minutes past curfew, why are you still up? Hello? Hello? Perhaps you need another shot. There, that should do it. Sweet dreams... you bastard." Nikki, "I remember now. I remember how it started. I can't remember yesterday, I just remember doing what they told me... told me... told me... told me." Anarchy-X Dr. X, "Do we have freedom? Do we have equality? This country's changing! It is no longer for all of the people! It is for some of the people!" Operation: Mindcrime Nikki (answering phone), "Hello?" Dr. X (on phone), "Mindcrime!" Nikki (answering phone again), "Hello?" Speak Nikki, at the beginning, "Hey, hey, listen to me!" Whispered in choruses, "Revolution!" Spoken at the end, "Speak!" Spreading the Disease ] Spoken, "Religion and sex are powerplays. Manipulate the people for the money they pay. Selling skin, selling God, the numbers look the same on their credit cards. Politicians say no to drugs, while we pay for wars in South America, fighting fire with empty words, while the banks get fat, and the poor stay poor, and the rich get rich, and the cops get paid to look away, as the one percent rules America." Repeated at the end, "Sex." The Mission TV, "...informing Washington, a technical violation of the 1972 ABM Treaty..." Televangelist, "I'm asking for hands to be uplifted in just a moment. God the Holy Ghost is calling out to embrace you. I want you to reach deep into your hearts and your pocketbooks and take his hand. Some of you are in a state of rebellion right now. You're saying..." Nikki, "Bless me, father, for I have sinned." Suite Sister Mary Dr. X, "Kill her. That's all you have to do." Nikki, "Kill Mary?" Dr. X, "She's a risk... and get the priest as well." Mary, "What are you doing out in the rain?" Mary, "I've been waiting for you. Come in." The Needle Lies Nikki, "I've had enough and I want out!" Dr. X, "You can't walk away now. Hahahahahaha..." Electric Requiem Nikki, "Anybody home? Mary?" Breaking the Silence Voices repeated at end of song, "We know you did it. Why'd you do it?" Nikki, "No... no... no!" Eyes of a Stranger Over the hospital public address system, "Doctor Davis, telephone please, Doctor Davis, telephone please. Doctor Blair, Doctor Blair, Doctor J. Hamilton." Best I Can Man at beginning of song, "Don't worry dear, he'll never find the gun." Woman, "Don't be scared." The Thin Line At beginning of song, "Let's go." Della Brown Woman at beginning of song, "Taxi!" Another Rainy Night In middle of song, "You have no new messages in your mailbox." Empire At beginning of song, "Next message saved Saturday, at 9:24 PM... Sorry, I'm just, it's starting to hit me like a, um, um, two-ton heavy thing." In middle of song, "In fiscal year 1986 to 87, local, state, and federal governments spent a combined total of 60.6 billion dollars on law enforcement. Federal law enforcement expenditures ranked last in absolute dollars and accounted for only a sixth percent of all federal spending. By way of comparison, the federal government spent 24 million more on space exploration and 43 times more on national defense and international relations than on law enforcement." Silent Lucidity In middle of song, "Visualize your dream. Record it in the present tense. Put it into a permanent form. If you persist in your efforts, you can achieve dream control... dream control... dream control." Overlapping that voice, "How's that, then, better?" At end of solo, "Help me." Anybody Listening? Last 70 seconds of song, faint voices behind sounds of wind and surf, impossible to make out. ________ _Personalities_ ________ Michael Kamen Michael Kamen - known for his movie music - arranged orchestration for The Warning, Operation: Mindcrime, Silent Lucidity, and Operation: Livecrime. He also co-wrote the song Real World, which can be found on the soundtrack of Last Action Hero, with Queensryche. The Operation: Mindcrime cast Sister Mary: Pamela Moore Dr. X: Anthony Valentine Nurse: Debbie Wheeler Anchorman: Mike Snyder Preacher: Scott Mateer The Moronic Monks of Morin Heights This anonymous choral group (the staff of Le Studio, in Morin Heights, Canada) provided the chorus vocals for Operation: Mindcrime and Operation: Livecrime. Metal Sushi Metal Sushi - whose real identity is a carefully guarded secret - is the head of the Fanclub, and edits 'Ryche & Roll Times, the Fanclub's quarterly newsletter. ________ _Related_Bands_ ________ Progressive rock and metal These bands all either influenced Queensryche, were influenced by some of the same bands as Queensryche, influenced some of the same bands as Queensryche, or were influenced by Queensryche. Below are listed the best places to get information on those bands - newsgroups and e-mail lists, digests, or contacts. Participation in any of these forums is strongly encouraged! There are many other good progressive rock and metal bands out there. Crimson Glory News: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive Dream Theater News: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive Mail: ytsejam-request@bnf.com Echolyn News: alt.music.progressive Fates Warning News: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive Genesis News: alt.music.progressive Mail: genesis-request@cs.unca.edu Heir Apparent News: alt.rock-n-roll.metal (?) Helloween News: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive Iron Maiden News: alt.rock-n-roll.metal King's X News: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive Mail: n8846069@henson.cc.wwu.edu Marillion News: alt.music.progressive Mail: freaks-request@bnf.com Mercyful Fate News: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive Mercury Rising News: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive Mail: glgoldsm@cbda9.apgea.army.mil Pink Floyd News: alt.music.progressive Mail: echoserv@fawnya.tcs.com Rush News: alt.music.rush Mail: rush-mgr@syrinx.umd.edu Sacred Warrior News: rec.music.christian Yes News: alt.music.progressive ________ _The_End_ ________